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I have heard the same the a fix is coming to upgrade the computer that will better distribute the fuel when cold, however the injector replacement has fixed mine for now
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Diesel engine clatter
:roll:Originally posted by Crammy
Well PradoPointers, I am able to add another scenario regarding what is causing the "clatter", mainly when cold.
When I dropped my vehicle off at the dealer this morning to have a SECOND set of engine mounts replaced under warranty, I spoke to the ser vice manager re the cold clatter and he advises it is caused by uneven action of injector cleaner!!! Apparently, different brands of diesel have different levels of a cleaner additive and depending on this, the injectors do not get cleaned evenly and level a mior carbon residue, hardly even distinguishable when removing and looking at the injecor at fault. I guess this could explain different injectors being responsible, as reported by previous posts? In any event, the service manager told me that it will go away after a while and not be a problem (after enough fuel has been forced through to remove the residue). This is indeed the case with my vehicle, I had a run of it and it has now gone. At least I hope this is the case, the dealer is happy to see and assess the vehicle should it happen again.
He also indicated from his experience, there is one brand of fuel common to the majority of cases he has encountered. Gary :roll:2007 Prado GrandeComment
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Thanks for the info gary. If the dirty injector is the cause you would think they'd run some injector cleaner through to fix the problem.
Mine has been happening for around 6000kms now with no signs of going away, infact I rekon it gets louder by the day... Anyway should be back to 100% Monday hopefully!2008 GXL M6 D4D, Silver
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I love the way all these dealers have a different take on what is causing the problem. There was no way my injector was going to fix itself and only replacing it cured the problem.Roll on the 2010 Pradopoint GTG
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Got mine back yesterday from the dealer. Was told that they will send the report off to toyota and toyota will send them a new ECU and a set on injectors once a kit becomes available.
They recon they are waiting on 8 kits before mine, mainly for hilux's but some prado's as well.2019 GXL, Bullbar, UHF, Redarc Brake Controller, Tow Bar, Secondary Fuel FilterComment
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Also booked in for Monday for injector #4 replacement, interesting the roving Toyota technical guru wants to be there for my injector change over. I'll update Monday night.
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Hi all,
So our Prado is in today ... Engine mount replacement and ECU Flash/Injector check.
So update so far:-
1. The pre- ecu flash injector check
i1 : -1.1
i2 : 3.2
i3 : -2.5
i4 : 0.4
Outcome: Toyota (not just dealer) recommending 4 new injectors required. And this must be done prior to the ECU reflash now.
They noted that there are now revised injectors ie "new design ones" but availability is an issue (possible end yr availbility, although this may improve)
A note was also made that ALL additional accessories added to car need to be disabled/disconnected prior to ECU re-flash - anyone else heard that? (I have indicated that is toyota responsibility to do!!!)
So saga continues for longer!
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Borgy what's the go with the engine mount issue? Is it rattly under load?
I'm trying to find another bad rattle I've got which appears under load in most gears include LR.
Good to hear that toyota is looking after you. I haven't heard anything about a reflash from my dealer. Either they're deliberately not telling me anything or they don't know. I can't even get the injector feedback figures off them!
cheers,
Crammy
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Hi
It sufaces as a noticeble shaking just before you stop and at very low/crawl speed (idling)... I am the 3rd prado that this dealer has dont engine mount replacements...Originally posted by Crammy
Push for them that way there is a clear record of what was found and their recommended action.Originally posted by Crammy
Lets hope this get consistently addressed in a more widespread fashion!
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Re: Diesel engine clatter
What brand of fuel :?: You can PM me if you like, ThxOriginally posted by garymarshall2000 Toyota Prado GXL- Gone, but not forgotten...
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Got the call today, they are replacing another 2 injectors (and the seals and the injector lines). Hopefully it goes well and the "pride and joy" can become fun to drive again.Originally posted by timbo_gxl_d4d
The car goes in on Monday.
Cheers,
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Hi boys,
the truck goes in on Monday for the reflash and injector change, i will keep you posted on the results.Babs
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Hi Crammy,Originally posted by CrammyBorgy what's the go with the engine mount issue? Is it rattly under load?
I'm trying to find another bad rattle I've got which appears under load in most gears include LR.
Good to hear that toyota is looking after you. I haven't heard anything about a reflash from my dealer. Either they're deliberately not telling me anything or they don't know. I can't even get the injector feedback figures off them!
cheers,
Crammy
Is your rattle at about 2200RPM when changing up gears. :?:07 Upgrade GXL D4D, Manual, Dune,Sov Bar, BFG's, SG11, Redark dual Batts, Extensive Aux wiring, Stebel, LED stop tails, IPF HID's (my mod), 240V Inv, ARB Comp, GME UHF,TPMS, Safari snorkel, GPS,Hilux washers, 40l Engel in 30% pas pos,homemade A/C cond protection plate, polyairs.Comment
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Nah mate, pretty much off idle up to around 1500-2000rpm. 1st and second gear mainly, but 3rd as well if I'm being lazy with the gear changes.
Oh and in LR also.2008 GXL M6 D4D, Silver
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Picked her up today after injector #4 replacement, ahhhh.... nice and quiet. I was fortunate to catch up with the Toyota Technical guru who authorises such injector warranty claims to asked how it went.
He said, as well as the injector replacement, he performed a ECU reflash with modified parameters that now have a self clean functionality included. He wouldn't go any further on how and when this functions works though. Anyway, running like a dream, so far!
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