How to pick a lemon D4D motor

[Bushbasher Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close Bushbasher]

There are lots of cheap Prados out there ATM. There are many 150s cheaper than my 120 is insured for, especially low mileage ex-govt cars and ex-mining (not all flogged out). You can still find cars that have never seen a bush track and have always been serviced by the book. When you know what to look out for you are then armed to find a good one.

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Hi Bushbasher,
Not to keen on the size of the 150 quite like the size and the shape of the 120 , there's plenty 150s out there but haven't found many 120s, plenty out of WA but to much trouble I suppose, read a lot of what #### has posted and what to look for , keep looking on Gumtree and factor in new injectors I suppose, talking $3600 ish to have them changed so see what turns up.but want auto , do see some good ones but they turn out to be petrol or manual.looking for an 09 model if possible but the 150 seemed to come out then and quite a few of them pop up .
Cheers Alan.

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Hi Bushbasher,
, talking $3600 ish to have them changed so see what turns up.

~$2000 give or take

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Hi Bushbasher,
Not to keen on the size of the 150 quite like the size and the shape of the 120 , there's plenty 150s out there but haven't found many 120s, plenty out of WA but to much trouble I suppose, read a lot of what #### has posted and what to look for , keep looking on Gumtree and factor in new injectors I suppose, talking $3600 ish to have them changed so see what turns up.but want auto , do see some good ones but they turn out to be petrol or manual.looking for an 09 model if possible but the 150 seemed to come out then and quite a few of them pop up .
Cheers Alan.

Hi Alan, this sounds like it fits the bill of what you're looking for.
2009 Toyota Prado diesel auto on Gumtree http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/1096237300

It's had the problems, had them fixed and now runs sweet. It's got new DLC injectors so you've got years of worry free motoring. Fly over, drive it home with a grin from ear to ear.

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Hi Alan, this sounds like it fits the bill of what you're looking for.
2009 Toyota Prado diesel auto on Gumtree http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/1096237300

It's had the problems, had them fixed and now runs sweet. It's got new DLC injectors so you've got years of worry free motoring. Fly over, drive it home with a grin from ear to ear.

Hi Mark,
So now your 08 is now an 09 , He He , we actually spoke last week sometime but you may have forgot the bloke from Perth who phoned you . I recognised your location and went through your posts and the D for Detonation one , scary ain't it , making me lean to doing my 1KZ up a bit then my consumption might be better than yours He He ,
I know you have done a bit of work on your Prado but it's not for me, good luck with Gumtree,
Funny old world isn't it.
Alan.

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Dec 08 build, first registered in 09

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~$2000 give or take

Hi Bushbash,
Sorry I meant $ 2600 not $ 3600 , one quote from United in Perth and one local for $50 less including new filter,
Just had a chap come back to me with a 120 ,09 good price ,
who have you used for drive in drive out injection changeover.
Alan.

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Dec 08 build, first registered in 09

Assuming the compliance is also '08, it should be advertised as an '08, yet it's advertised as an '09.

A good example of why it is important to thoughly inspect all second hand vehicles.

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My 150 is Dec 2012 build and Jan 2013 compliance and first registered Feb 2013 but comes up as a 2012 model at the dealer. I don't actually care I got it for the right price at the time.

Edit: actually I do care, I missed out on fully dlc injectors by that..... much.

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Hello boys,
Been posting before about upgrading my 06 1KZ 4 speed auto with cooler ,has 210 ks on now I think it runs fine 12.2 lts per 100 ks just less than 18 with the van on,all up about 2250 kgs there abouts got a 3 inch exhaust and that's all, always reading PP some very clever and most of all experienced blokes here ,
haven't done the injectors or glow plugs yet but reading Anths comments about glow plungs I must make a move soon,
As most of you know the 1KZ is a bit weak on the hills towing , so thinking of Injectors and glow plugs and a chip , turbo shop not far from me in Balcatta in Perth very clued up on turbos and dyno tuning , GTURBO
. made some recommendations for a DTE MODULE and dyno to tune , most of it went over my head , plug into this ,plug into them ,boost will go to 18 etc. but he has a good reputation I read, and could do different stages of tune with intercoolers , and different turbos etc ,but for what I wanted the module and dyno was fine without compromising my motor and fuel economy to much.

He did say that when my head cracks,(not if,) he has good heads for the 1KZ, so like the D4D with injectors, the 1KZ has head problems ???

Then Ozbush comes along with a manual mapper gizmo and has me watching his progress, the mapper or a chip ,another clued up PPer I respect , very informed.

If I go the other way and look for a used D4D that will cost me more $$$ and don't know if I'm buying a lemon,we've all heard about Injector tales I know percentage wise it's sod all for the amount of good vehicles out there but how do you pick a good motor, are they running ok before problems and just fail at any time or can you pick a dodgy one , I know there are people like #### who deal with them on a daily basis and might be able to pick a dodgy, but don't think I could , petrol is a bit different to me you can usually hear something not quite right but diesels all sound Noisy to me , big endy if it was petrol , imo.

Sooo , keep the devil I know and really like and do Injectors glow plugs chip dyno tune for about $ 3k Ish ,clean out my possible crap from inlet system , could probably do that myself with references from PP,
Or look for a later vehicle with hopefully a better engine ,
I must say I'm not a rev head just the towing the van that lets my 1kz down on the hills,normally travel at 90 ish with the van in tow,
Thanks for reading.
Cheers Alan.

Ok so keeping the 1kz is an option. They are great.

You decide

If looking for a 1kd, a few things to keep in mind.

1.)
From 01/08 they had coated seats, so it's highly unlikely to have suffered the blow by problem & causing oil starvation.
Avoid this

Or any vehicle that may have had it, unless you have an expert to check it out.

2.)
If you choose an 08 or 09 with under 80,000k it's unlikely to have or had shagged Injectors.
Up to 120k is pretty safe too, allow for replacing them if they have not been.

3.)
Following 1&2 you can't really go wrong as long as it has the usual full service history.
These vehicles are tough & can handle a lot of shit, so get your hands on one & look after it my way & you will be sweet forever!

4.)
If you go for 150-200k er, that's good also, but have Injectors checked to make sure they are not off their heads, damage may have been done, but unlikely. Also compression test is a great idea. High Klm's is not so bad it means he's been used, better tan sitting around really & you will save 10k over a low Klm's vehicle which means your next 3 -4 sets of injectors are free. So your good till about 500,000k.

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Hi ####, thanks for your info will take it all in,
I have seen a few 120s got one to look at with 205 ks GX no ABS would you call that a problem , hasn't had injectors done not sure of the service history, Jan 09 08 built , wondering about a compression test only able to check I suppose when getting injectors done and vehicle bought ??
Thanks again for your time.
Alan.

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Hi Bushbash, who have you used for drive in drive out injection changeover.
Alan.

Me. First time ever on a diesel. Changed them out in September last year, about 40,000km ago. No problems, been to Tassie and back and some.

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Hi ####, thanks for your info will take it all in,
I have seen a few 120s got one to look at with 205 ks GX no ABS would you call that a problem , hasn't had injectors done not sure of the service history, Jan 09 08 built , wondering about a compression test only able to check I suppose when getting injectors done and vehicle bought ??
Thanks again for your time.
Alan.

I'm not a fan of abs, but I can drive.
Overall I think it's much safer to have abs, most drivers.
Your call!

You could buy subject to getting a pre purchase vehicle inspection, make sure they will do a comp test in their price.
You will want a vehicle which has full service history eg; oil changes.
Also check feedback values & if they are really high, damage could already be done.
If they are a little out, then just do it afterwards. Allow for $3k.