Grande 120 body lift

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Hey all
I was looking at luxlifts web page and they have a 2" body lift for a prado, will this suit a Grande and what is involved? The last truck I lifted really wasn't much fun, quiet a big job having to bend gear shifters extend fuel and break lines etc. any advice would be great

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Don't forget the air conditioning lines to the rear and console fridge . Don't know why you would need to lift the body . It's not the body that touches down first . If you need a body lift on a prado grande , then you have bought the wrong vehicle .

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Here is a bit of a rundown on a guy in the UK that did a 40mm body lift http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...ight=body+lift

Lots of hassles, lots of legal issues, little gain. Have you got lifted suspension yet?

Cheers Andrew

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Thanks for the reply guys, I bought a Grande knowing its limitations but I am certainly not scared to use the car for what it is made for not like show pony cars with all the aftermarket fruit that run around the city not getting dirty. I'm looking to squeeze every inch of tyre size out of this car if it's not ridiculously hard to do and still ride in comfort, this place seemed like a good place to start to see if it has been done or is even possible. AJ120 Suspension will be ordered in the next week or two after I work out what the best configuration is, may have a lot of reading to do.

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I've had my grande for 4 years and done a lot of what are considered the harder tracks to do , and the only place I've found my standard grande to be lacking in ground clearance is in the car park at the shopping center when parked next to some one that probably has no idea how to use their 4wd . I trust you have read your manual and know that by pressing the button on the center console , that you get a 40 mm lift from the airbags at the rear . Really you don't need anything more unless you want to run the Paris -Dakar or Finke desert race or enter a winch challenge . When you pull into the Woolies car park , just hit the lift button , it gives you that, I'm hardcore 4wd look without actually needing to go through the expense . When you leave the car park and put your foot into it , the car will drop back down and handle like it should and no one will be the wiser . If you want to look like a 17 year old hilux ute driver you can again press the button and dump the arse to the bump stops . It's great , you can press a button and have car park street cred wherever you go with a grande . Realistically you're probably likely to run out of driving talent before you find the limits of the grande , it's one horribly under estimated vehicle . My earthmoving machines couldn't drive over some of the stuff my grande has.

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Really you don't need anything more unless you want to run the Paris -Dakar or Finke desert race or enter a winch challenge .

When you pull into the Woolies car park , just hit the lift button , it gives you that, I'm hardcore 4wd look without actually needing to go through the expense.

When you leave the car park and put your foot into it , the car will drop back down and handle like it should and no one will be the wiser.

If you want to look like a 17 year old hilux ute driver you can again press the button and dump the arse to the bump stops. It's great , you can press a button and have car park street cred wherever you go with a grande.

Realistically you're probably likely to run out of driving talent before you find the limits of the grande.

Lol! .... I reckon you are running neck to neck with MLC with your humore! ... Love it! +1

Cheers

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Hey Kav
I have asked a simple question that it seems you have no actual knowledge on it seems, I would like to say thank you to AJ120 for a constructive post as I looked at what he had posted and I have assessed the difficulty factor to benefit gain based on the useful knowledge supplied, which is what a community based forum is suppose to be about.

Thank you kav for making my first post on Prado point an unwelcoming and disappointing experience

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Hey all
I was looking at luxlifts web page and they have a 2" body lift for a prado, will this suit a Grande and what is involved? The last truck I lifted really wasn't much fun, quiet a big job having to bend gear shifters extend fuel and break lines etc. any advice would be great

Cheer's Scorpion

No fun correct. Do t need it. Just drive & have fun.

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Hey Kav
I have asked a simple question that it seems you have no actual knowledge on it seems, I would like to say thank you to AJ120 for a constructive post as I looked at what he had posted and I have assessed the difficulty factor to benefit gain based on the useful knowledge supplied, which is what a community based forum is suppose to be about.

Thank you kav for making my first post on Prado point an unwelcoming and disappointing experience

I wouldn't be too hard on Kav, once you get to know his personality you will realize he's trying to help, he just comes across as a bit grumpy sometimes, but the gist of his post is correct.

With a Prado with a basic 2" lift and 32" tyres which is all easily accomplished you will get through 99% of the tracks you can find in Australia. The Grande should have traction control which helps, without that a locker or 2 makes a big difference but that's really about all you need.

There are options for bigger tyres and bigger lifts if you really want to tackle that 1% of tracks, those tracks are all a long way from Roxby though.

Cheers Andrew

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Remember if you fit a body lift you need to rework all your bars etc. otherwise it looks stupid. I had a body lift on my GQ, which was designed to go hard or go home, eventually the body lift blocks started to punch through the floor and the GQ was made using real metal. I'd hate to think what it would do to a Prado floor pan.

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Was me telling you that you will have to extend all the air conditioning lines to the front , rear and centre console fridge which happen to go through the floor under the consul not helpful . Was that not actual knowledge .I must be an idiot and have no mechanical knowledge of prado grandes . I apologise profusely for submitting my opinion on this public forum or for making anyone feel disappointed . Let's not make this an argument or slanging match . This is just an opinion or opinions from people who have owned and used the vehicle that you are enquiring about . If you choose to take what is the top of the line , most beautiful riding and handling and capable 4wds and turning it into something ordinary for what will be no benefit , then you go girl . But I did offer some useful information.

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Its occurred to me that you are equating a bigger lift with fitting bigger tyres, that's not really the case with a Prado. Also by big tyres what size do you have in mind?

Up to a 265/70/17 or around 32' tyre will fit without any problems at all, even on standard suspension.

If you go up to a 285/70/17 or a 33" tyre your going to start to have spend lots more dollars. That size will rub on the upper control arms (UCA's), the mudflaps and the chassis at full lock. More lift isn't the answer, although it may be a small part of the answer. You need different offset wheels, maybe aftermarket UCA's and you will need to massage the mudflaps and possibly the guard depending on lift.

If you wanted to go that way have a read here http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...teve-s-08-D4-D this is probably the best example with enough info and photos of it actually working that you will find on this forum, its a long read but you will likely learn a lot from it.

Some people have claimed to have run larger tyres again, however in every case details are pretty thin, pictures are scarce and lots of info about the problems caused by these larger tyres conveniently gets glossed over. Once you go over a 33' tyre then fouling on the front body mount is probably your next issue.

Some of these issues can be helped by running tall, but skinny tyres, once again though people who have done this haven't really offered a lot of detail about how its gone.

Going anything over a 2' lift with your Grande suspension is probably going to cause you a bit of grief. A grande certainly wouldn't be my first choice for big lift and tyres.

Cheers Andrew

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Hey AJ

I was really hoping to get 33" muds on and having read that 32" with the usual 2" lift was about it.

See I am in a very fortunate position at the moment were I have just purchased a very clean and un tampered truck and I see the GLX boys can achive a 33" tyre with the correct off set. I thought I was asking a pretty good question for a very common cheap mod if you are handy with the tools. I have crawled around under the car a few times looking for things that May fowl stretch or break and haven't seen much (including the A/C & fridge lines that seem to only attach to the body, I would love some detail on where these connect to the body and chassis rail)

I have taken my truck up up the beach a few times at high tide and find that when I get stuck in the ruts made by other people running too higher tyre pressures the old girl drags her belly along the sand and I have had some very very close calls, hence why I want a larger diameter tyre to get the belly off the ground, I found with my last truck going from the standard 31" tyre to a 33" tyre improved it's capability no end and got me to some amazing places

I still think this lift is possible but I will spend more time researching it.

Cheer's Scorpion

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Give you have a standard vehicle chances are your suspension has sagged. I don't know what your last rig was but the Prado being IFS when you lift the front suspension you gain underbody clearance, unlike a solid axle rig where extra clearance only comes with larger tyres (or portals).

Running my 32's I find my gearing is about as high as I would be comfortable with, I've thought about 33's a few times but reckon I would want to regear if going that route.

32's a 2" lift and low tyre pressures will get you through any beach in SA, and we have some of the toughest beaches in OZ.

Cheers Andrew