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  • #31
    Engineering Fees

    Hi Grandeman.

    Engineering fees are around 300 - 400 dollars, but vary depending on individual Engineering Signatories.

    As part of the certification, you need to do a speedo check, so be aware (if they haven't told you on the quote) that if your speedo reading is outside the required tolerance (which I believe is 10% - but don't quote me on this) that you'll have to have your speedo re-calibrated. There are after market units you can buy which may be a cheaper option if this is the case.

    There is a list of certfiying engineers contained in VSI15 - Engineering Signatories. Your best shot is to give them a call and see what they say.

    For what it's worth, I have had a chat to quite a few people regarding this issue, and haven't heard of anyone getting "defected", insurance companies not honouring their contracts, or toyota not honouring their warranty (although I did read somewhere in this forum that someone has in writing that toyota won't honour the warranty on drivetrain components if you fit non standard wheels) - Indeed, the thinking in the motor trade is that the proof of failure would be put on those that try to "shirk" their responsibilities.

    For me, I've decided to stay on standard tyres until after the warranty runs out, by which time hopefully the RTA will be in the same century as the rest of us. If they're not, I'll put on bigger tyres and get a certificate - and I can assure you if I do that then the tyres will be something bigger than the 265/70/r17 I was contemplating.

    The important thing out of all this is that people know what they are doing, and the consequences that could happen, and can at least make an informed decision.

    Hope this helps - even if it's not what you - or I - wanted to hear...

    Adrian

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    • #32
      Thanks Adrian - very helpful.

      Much appreciated.

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      • #33
        Guys,
        we are getting a big mix of tyre sizes & what is legal & what is not but it still boils down to what is on you place card. THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT IS NOT TO GO UNDER THE LOAD RATING & IF YOU WENT 245/70x17 you will be way under, depending on your original fitment :?:
        Size unfortunately still seems to vary from state to state, but I can't see much of a problem with 265/70x17, load rating is greater & dia slightly larger.
        I am basing this on 265/65x17 as your original fitment.

        There have been a lot of postings on this issue in the past.

        Cheers,
        Fazza
        07 Silver Ash, GXL, D4D, Auto. Lifestyle rear cargo rack. 2500 kg Tow bar with Tekonsha elec brake controller, Rear dust deflector, Mio Sat nav, (Still trying to fault the Dunlop AT20's)

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        • #34
          OOPS,
          Sorry if I have misled everyone, I must admit I did not check on the load rating of the Cooper STT, but generally the smaller the tyre the lower the load rating unless they are of a LIGHT TRUCK CONSTRUCTION.
          Just for the record it turns out the Coopers are only approx 2% smaller in dia or roughly 2 mm difference.

          Cheers,
          Fazza
          07 Silver Ash, GXL, D4D, Auto. Lifestyle rear cargo rack. 2500 kg Tow bar with Tekonsha elec brake controller, Rear dust deflector, Mio Sat nav, (Still trying to fault the Dunlop AT20's)

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          • #35
            Hi all. Great forum you have here and have been looking over it for hours - could spend days on it really!
            Anyhow, I have just bought a 2005 VX, petrol, and the new tyres that were fitted by the previous owner are 275/65-17 and the spare is still 265/65-17.
            Q: can i run using this spare without damage to drive train, being that the tyres are a different circum?
            My prevoius car's were AWD Subaru's to which i was told to keep circ the same or damage may occur to the visc LSD on the rear.
            ...and also, the actual speed i'm travelling will be more than previous, guess around 2%. How acurate are the speedo's in the prado, because if they read lower than actual speed, as most do, then now with the larger tyres on Im guessing i will now be travelling closer to the actual speed on the speedo in real terms..
            any info would be great.
            cheers, Rod
            2005 VX V6 4.0L, Pearl White, Sovereign bar, nitestalker spotties, Tow Pack, Headlight & Bonnet Protectors, radiator bash plate, sandgrabba mats, cargo mat, DVD in headrest, radiator insect screen,

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            • #36
              Rod, no sure about the 265/65/17 spare but I wouldn't have that setup myself. As for the speedo's, they are very accurate. As you say, most cars read high (so you're actually going slower). If you put bigger tyres on, check it with a GPS as you'll be going faster than indicated.

              Nige.

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              • #37
                roddy,
                It is never a good idea to run a different size tyre as a spare particularly with limited slip differentials & bearing in mind your transfer or center diff (Torsen) is also a limited slip unit. It would put a continual load on your drive line.

                Cheers,
                Fazza
                07 Silver Ash, GXL, D4D, Auto. Lifestyle rear cargo rack. 2500 kg Tow bar with Tekonsha elec brake controller, Rear dust deflector, Mio Sat nav, (Still trying to fault the Dunlop AT20's)

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                • #38
                  13mm rolling diameter between those two, 265 and the 275 by 65. My local Cooper dealer reackons that is " within spec " ( 13mm ) :? I run 265/70s on mine and a 275/65 spare, this is again 13mm difference. Ive never had a flat though.

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                  • #39
                    yes my thoughts exactly. I think i will buy a matching 275/65-17 for the spare and sell the new spare that is fitted.. will see if local tyre place will trade it in. One issue is the tyres that have been fitted are dunlop
                    grandtreck AT22.. I can't even find the AT22 on the dunlop website so how can these be fitted new a couple months ago??
                    I want to try and get the same type for the spare and rotate all 5 around until worn then go for something better...
                    thanks guys. cheers

                    Originally posted by Fazza
                    roddy,
                    It is never a good idea to run a different size tyre as a spare particularly with limited slip differentials & bearing in mind your transfer or center diff (Torsen) is also a limited slip unit. It would put a continual load on your drive line.

                    Cheers,
                    Fazza
                    2005 VX V6 4.0L, Pearl White, Sovereign bar, nitestalker spotties, Tow Pack, Headlight & Bonnet Protectors, radiator bash plate, sandgrabba mats, cargo mat, DVD in headrest, radiator insect screen,

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                    • #40
                      http://www.carbonblack.com.au/BrowseTyr ... 3&MenuId=5

                      The AT22, are off the old 100 series cruiser( original fitment), i say you have someones trade in from new been fitted.
                      [b]Rob[/b]

                      [b]2016 Toyota Hilux SR5 D4D Auto Company Cruiser... [/b].
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                      • #41
                        ah ha..... i will endevour to contact previous owner and find out what has happened.
                        thanks heaps.
                        Rod
                        2005 VX V6 4.0L, Pearl White, Sovereign bar, nitestalker spotties, Tow Pack, Headlight & Bonnet Protectors, radiator bash plate, sandgrabba mats, cargo mat, DVD in headrest, radiator insect screen,

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                        • #42
                          Hey Matt,

                          You know you want them... I bet you can almost taste them...

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                          • #43
                            Matt, i am assuming that the blocky STT would have have almost just as wide footprint as much rounded shoulder on the standard dunlop enen though it is 20mm thinner.

                            Their is talk about about national road/ licemsing rules been adopted across the country in 2008, the guy at the department of transport stand at the Brisbane motor show seemed to think that it will also apply to to the new national standards for modificationsetc.
                            I am just waiting to see what happens this year.
                            [b]Rob[/b]

                            [b]2016 Toyota Hilux SR5 D4D Auto Company Cruiser... [/b].
                            [url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?23866-Hutch-s-2012-150-GXL-V6-petrol-Auto]Hutch's 2012 Build up[/url]
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