Which One First?

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The genuine Staun deflators are really accurate once you get them set, like most things if you buy the cheap imitaion version then you get cheap immitation results!

The real downside of the Staun deflators is the fact they are set to a single pressure, so not really that useful for varying conditions. I don't carry my Stauns anymore and only use the ARB Ezy-deflator which is excellent. Once again cheap Ebay imitations are available, as to how good they are, well as has been said, buy right, buy once = money saved.

Cheers Andrew

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The one I have is Ironman branded but the "cheap eBay imitations" can be just as good quality and possibly made on the same production line as the ARB Ezy-deflator. Just out of interest doesn't the Ezy-deflator have a made in China sticker on the back?

Yes they could be good, they could even be made on the same production line maybe they are good, the fact is its an unknown. At leat with the ARB you have the backing of a nation wide chain and the knowledge they try and produce the best quality products they can.

As you alrady pointed out in this thread, your screw on deflators are hit and miss, probably beccause they are imitation, so you spent good money on something that "may" have been good quality and "might" have even come from the same production line as the genuine article, but they don't work so are a waste of money.

My ARB deflator has no indication of where it was made, quite possibly in China but thats not the issue, its the quality control during and after manufacture. Also the likelehood of the product performing as needed when it is really needed.

Really in this case what is the saving between between the genuine article and the Ebay option? In actual dollar terms its not a whole lot when comparing to the hassle of it not working when needed.

Cheers Andrew

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With my Stauns I have two set to 25psi and two set to 18psi. That way you can still put all four on and let them do their thing, just need to keep an ear on the first two if you are heading for 25psi. If going down to 18 you just have to drop the last two the extra bit.

I am very careful with imitations having been burned.

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I agree what your saying Jasen and a good example is here with the Ezy-deflators. To me, the ARB branded item looks exactly the same as the Ironman and the one that you purchased. But if the item that you purchased from wonfuklung in China or whoever online fails, how easy is it going to be to get the item repaired or replaced? That's one of the many advantages of an ARB and it's support network...

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Here endeth the Jasen rant of the day lol

Why do I not believe that?

Tyre deflators aren't really a great example of why saving money buying the cheaper option is a bad idea, after all you also need a pressure gauge to reinflate tyres and a stick can be used to deflate a tyre and the pressure gauge to check when you get it correct, unlikely that both the pressure gauge and the deflator will both go kaput at the same time.

The rality of buying cheap, saving money, and as you put it Jasen effectively self insuring yourself against failure is all well and good in theory but it falls down when in the real world. Murphys law usually comes into play and things don't fail when you are finished using them and can get a new one before next time, they fail when you need them and another is not available. The result of this is that someone else, whether a travelling companion or a stranger who is in the same place at the right time ends up helping.

I couldn't begin to count the times someone else who "got a bargain" ended up holding up the whole convoy or relying on others (read me) to come to the rescue, yeah they get through most times, no big deal, but only because others who spent the money on the better gear, or spent the money on gear likly to be needed came to the rescue.

So back to the early advice, buy right, buy once and save money.

Or buy cheap, buy multiple times and hope a good samaritan comes to the rescue when your cheap gear fails at the crucial moment.

Cheers Andrew

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Why do I not believe that?

Cheers Andrew

because of the smartbar thread.

this thread should triple its posts in a day with jasen at the keyboard.

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What can I say! I'm like a car crash, you don't wanna look but you just can't help yourself lol

or a hot chick

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I may be wrong but I think it may have been a while since you had to seriously consider budget as a top priority and you seem to be a very patient man that has the will power to wait till you can afford the best.

You are wrong on the first part and right on the second. As a blue collar worker who has spent his entire working life working for wages at the low end of the spectrum I always have to be concerned about money. Thats why I see it as critical that you don't waste money on stuff that is throw away, if your loaded and can afford to throw stuff away well thats different, but money is tight for the OP as you pointed out.

But yes, I have always been very disciplined with money and always worked on the theory that if you cant afford it you cant afford it, I have put off and postponed many things until I had the money to pay for it, I still am postponing things I would love to buy or do because money is tight.

Cheers Andrew

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You are wrong on the first part and right on the second. As a blue collar worker who has spent his entire working life working for wages at the low end of the spectrum I always have to be concerned about money. Thats why I see it as critical that you don't waste money on stuff that is throw away, if your loaded and can afford to throw stuff away well thats different, but money is tight for the OP as you pointed out.

But yes, I have always been very disciplined with money and always worked on the theory that if you cant afford it you cant afford it, I have put off and postponed many things until I had the money to pay for it, I still am postponing things I would love to buy or do because money is tight.

Cheers Andrew

Andrew,

What trade are you in if you dont mind me asking.

Cheers Tim

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Andrew,

What trade are you in if you dont mind me asking.

Cheers Tim

No "trade" as such but spent most of my working life either Welding / metal engineering or operating earthmoving equipment and driving trucks, Loaders, Backhoe, Excavators etc. Grew up working every weekend from 5 years old in my old mans wrecking yard pulling cars apart which convinced me to not be a mechanic

Currently doing my sliders and trying to get a few other products ready for sale, as well as the odd welding job for a few locals. Driving trucks during the grape vintage to keep a bit of cash flow, which really doesn't involve much driving, it mostly involves sitting around in wineries bored sensless waiting to unload.

Cheers Andrew

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No "trade" as such but spent most of my working life either Welding / metal engineering or operating earthmoving equipment and driving trucks, Loaders, Backhoe, Excavators etc. Grew up working every weekend from 5 years old in my old mans wrecking yard pulling cars apart which convinced me to not be a mechanic

Currently doing my sliders and trying to get a few other products ready for sale, as well as the odd welding job for a few locals. Driving trucks during the grape vintage to keep a bit of cash flow, which really doesn't involve much driving, it mostly involves sitting around in wineries bored sensless waiting to unload.

Cheers Andrew

If i was still in school looking for an apprenticeship i would definatly not choose mechanic.

very fun trade. can be a pita with these tiny engine bays. only downside to me is hopeless pay.

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Good on ya AJ!

I hope that we never start agreeing on everything as my life is going to get very boring

When are you going to start selling KDSS compatible rock sliders for the 150?

i think this has been said before but. it would cost an arm and a leg, or the worth of my prado to actually get the sliders tested.

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i think this has been said before but. it would cost an arm and a leg, or the worth of my prado to actually get the sliders tested.

Well aren't we getting way off topic now Octane is correct, as I have stated elsewhere, airbag compatability puts this in the too hard / too expensive category, at least at this stage.

Apart from that I find too many people are to focused on the cost of products and ultimately will go and buy an inferior imported procuct because its cheaper and the local manufacturers are just ripping people off, I wouldn't want to be one of those manufacturers

Cheers Andrew

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Well aren't we getting way off topic now
Cheers Andrew

Went from compressor vs tyre gauge vs maxtrax
to buying quality once.
to jasen going on a rant.
to andrew answering my question to what trade he is in.
to jasen asking about rock sliders
to andrew reminding us how offtopic we are..