Confused... what changes have been made to auto shift patterns by dealers

[Tezza222z Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tezza222z]

My dealer tells me that there are no changes that Toyota has put through for the auto gearboxes so when I read about people having their autos flashed to makes changes to the revs at which the box changes I am not sure what is actually happening.
Can somebody enlighten me please. I wish that the dealer could.
Also when they tell me that the box is adaptive and that it assimilates to my driving patterns, what does that mean?? Is there a secretary in there who takes note of my mood swings (from hoon to conservationist) at any given moment. I often try to drive with an eye to economy but if this leads to the car thinking that I only want to drive like that it could be a problem. When I try to drive for economy is when I get the most vibrations and the engine seems to labour. I wish that I had gone for a manual.

[Riv39 Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close Riv39]

My 2c worth, the only alleged change available (my dealer disputes this as they don't know of any) is to correct the overtemp light coming on under certain conditions. This apparently (never happened to me but I don't tow anything) happens in heavy traffic whilst travelling uphill. Does it change the shift pattern....there is mixed opinion from what I have read.

If you want the car to perform better (IMO) use 'S' mode and remember to select 5 as it will default to 4 or whatever lower gear you’re in when you select it. No automatic engine breaking but you can do that manually if required whilst in 'S' mode. Different car to drive IMO much more responsive and less lugging.

Does the car 'adapt' to your driving style...allegedly....can't say I've noticed but I almost always drive in S mode and the misses uses D so I can't really tell.

[120D4D Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close 120D4D]

Hi Tezza,

Not sure about my 120 but I know that certain auto boxes are adaptive and will 'learn' your driving style over a period of time. Cant say Ive noticed it too much but the units that are wound out more seem to hold the current gear a little longer than those that idle around town that seem to up-shift lower in the rpm range.

my 2c...

Micheal

[yowie Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close yowie]

With my auto petrol 150, I sometimes drive through the gears like a clutchless manual, to pick the gear I want. I put the boot in every now and then, so the engine and computer find all my driving styles. Driving behind a slow vehicle, around 80 or 90 k/m on country roads, I can put the boot in, and the Prado will kick down to 2nd gear almost straight away and take off. Consumption goes up at those times, but the Prado will get up and go around the slow vehicle as I want it to do, without spending too much time on the opposite side of the road.

For the last 20 to 25 years, I added Slick 50 to my engine oil every 80,000 kms (Landcruisers before the Prado). It coats the interior of the engine with PFTE (cannot remember exactly each letter) but it adds a protective film to the metal parts inside the engine and reduces friction. Slick 50 is impossible to find now (American product) so I use Nulon Long Life (also lasts for 80,000 kms) So far, so good with Nulon. An old mechanic told me to use Slick 50 many years ago, as it protected the engines of his vehicles (he was running high performance V8 holdens).

Yowie.

[Strider Member Find all posts View Profile Close Strider]

Slick 50 is impossible to find now (American product)

Yowie.

This is the age of the internet Yowie, NOTHING! is impossible to find.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Slick-50-...item5889b40682


Cheers
Alan

[croozza Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close croozza]

I think your talking about the auto box in the diesel, under heavy load, eg towing, the AT light comes on, Toyota can change the sensitivity of the sensor (reflash), so that it stops happening so quickly, but with any auto trans, you should always fit an oil cooler.

[blw Member Find all posts View Profile Close blw]

Slick 50 may be hard to find due to the following court case regarding it's claimed benefits

http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/legal/s50com.html



In specific (read all of the orders from the court)

For purposes of this order, the following definitions shall apply:


"Slick 50" shall mean the aftermarket motor oil additive known as Slick 50 Automotive Engine Formula, Slick 50 Advanced Formula Engine Treatment, or any Slick 50 trademarked product of substantially similar composition.
"Motor oil product" shall mean a product for use in conjunction with or in place of fully formulated motor oil.
"Competent and reliable scientific evidence" shall mean tests, analyses, research, studies, or other evidence based on the expertise of professionals in the relevant area that has been conducted and evaluated in an objective manner by persons qualified to do so, using procedures generally accepted in the profession to yield accurate and reliable results.

I.
IT IS ORDERED that respondents Blue Coral, Inc. and Blue Coral-Slick 50, Inc., corporations, and Blue Coral-Slick 50, Ltd., a limited partnership, their successors and assigns, and their officers, agents, representatives, and employees, directly or through any corporation, subsidiary, division or other device, in connection with the manufacturing, advertising, labeling, packaging, offering for sale, sale, or distribution of Slick 50, or any substantially similar motor oil product containing polytetrafluoroethylene (hereinafter "PTFE"), in or affecting commerce, as "commerce" is defined in the Federal Trade Commission Act, do forthwith cease and desist from representing, in any manner, directly or by implication, that:

A. Automobile engines generally have little or no protection from wear at or just after start-up unless they have been treated with such product;

B. Automobile engines commonly experience premature failure caused by wear unless they are treated with such product; or

C. Such product coats engine parts with a layer of PTFE.


II.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that respondents Blue Coral, Inc. and Blue Coral-Slick 50, Inc., corporations, and Blue Coral-Slick 50, Ltd., a limited partnership, their successors and assigns, and their officers, agents, representatives, and employees, directly or through any corporation, subsidiary, division or other device, in connection with the manufacturing, advertising, labeling, packaging, offering for sale, sale, or distribution of Slick 50, any other engine lubricating product used in a motor vehicle and sold under the Slick 50 trademark, or any engine treatment or oil additive, in or affecting commerce, as "commerce" is defined in the Federal Trade Commission Act, do forthwith cease and desist from:

A. Misrepresenting, in any manner, directly or by implication:


1. That such product meets military specifications or the requirements, standards, or specifications of any other governmental or private organization; or
2. The existence, contents, validity, results, conclusions, or interpretations of any test or study.
B. Making any representation, in any manner, directly or by implication:


1. That, compared to motor oil alone, such product:
a) Reduces engine wear;
b) Reduces engine wear by more than 50%, by up to 50%, or by any other specific quantity;
c) Reduces engine wear at start-up;
d) Extends the duration of engine life; or
e) Lowers engine temperatures, reduces toxic emissions, increases gas mileage, or increases horsepower;
2. That one or any other number of treatments of such product reduces engine wear for 50,000 or any other number of miles;
3. That such product has been used in a significant number or any other number of U.S. Government vehicles; or
4. Regarding the performance, benefits, efficacy, attributes or use of such product,
unless, at the time of making such representation, respondents possess and rely upon competent and reliable evidence, which when appropriate must be competent and reliable scientific evidence, that substantiates the representation