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  • #16
    And here I am spewing because some little pric* took mine for a blast down the road over speed humps. Really really feel for you and hope it goes in your favour. Even some thing like this may have been able to be proved by having a dash camera, would have picked up audio sound for sure wether it was the little tool saying oh f*** I forgot to put oil back in (which I totally agree with the other comments on this) or the possible sound of the engine. Hope you get it sorted buddy, nothing worse.............Cheers Steve
    Face lift 150 Prado V6 auto. No mods yet

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    • #17
      Got my gx serviced today at toyota. Little nervous as it was an ex QLD gov car but all went well with all my warranty issues covered. But after its 60,000 service it's going to my mate and regular mech. Most dealerships only have 1 or so clued up mechs with the rest being a filler of young guys and people passing through etc. dealerships look nice and shiny but I'd rather my known mechanic any day.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by gympiebrowns View Post
        damn shodown this really sux, what i noticed in the above was "20/06 AM Mid-morning, road tested vehicle. Knock manifested and reported." so the knock happened during the test drive, Adj. 1 manifest - reveal its presence or make an appearance; "the ghost manifests each year on the same day", all the best with it all mate...
        Yeah, apparently these things appear out of nowhere without any symptoms. Its a complete crock. If there was a knock, why didnt the service tech who drove it from the carpark not detect it when driving it to the workshop. Its a good 50-100m drive. A simple oil change doesnt result in a knock causing that much damage - unless you didnt put oil in.


        Originally posted by mackayvx View Post
        Man I would be going nuts!!!
        The knock started on the test drive... AFTER they did the service...
        Thats more than a coincedence.

        The little prick drove it back to the shop, filled it with oil THEN reported it.

        Man I would have to take a ice bath cos my blood would be boiling.
        Yep - its what EVERYONE bar Toyota Dealership believes.

        Originally posted by Ticka View Post
        Got my gx serviced today at toyota. Little nervous as it was an ex QLD gov car but all went well with all my warranty issues covered. But after its 60,000 service it's going to my mate and regular mech. Most dealerships only have 1 or so clued up mechs with the rest being a filler of young guys and people passing through etc. dealerships look nice and shiny but I'd rather my known mechanic any day.
        I am not saying fleet / mining vehicles are necessarily bad - the guy who inspected the engine said it was one of the cleanest engines he had seen at 90k. Reckons they must have changed oil every 5k.

        With the exception of the electrics (which is sounding more like a detailer got carried away with the gurney), it was a great car (for the 8 weeks I had it!!)

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        • #19
          Though you guys may want a look at the destruction....

          Still in limbo. Consumer Protection believe the most likely scenario is they started it up and idled it for a while with no oil, doesn't believe the damage is consistent with the card being driven to destruction (9km they did).

          But he doesn't believe the card has been submerged (and therefore Toyota's claim that it was a potential cause to premature failure).

          Though, it looks like whoever replaced the window before it was wholesales f*cked it up, as the car has been sitting outside a workshop for the past 6 or so weeks and has a decent amount of water under the carpets.

          Great.....
          Attached Files

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          • #20
            They have started it up, got out of the vehicle and "checked for leaks" etc. As a result they wouldn't have seen the check oil light (not sure if the vehicle stops when it detects this. By the looks it doesn't) until they heard grinding noises or the engine stopped due to seizing. If they drove it they would have seen the oil light and damage would have been a lot more one would think.
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            • #21
              Shodown it sounds like you've finally got someone to support what everyone knows is the truth. So where does it go from here?? Can Consumer Protection now force Toyota to fix their mistake?? Or is this where the battle now begins??

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              • #22
                No denying that crank has been run without an oil supply. It stinks that they don't have the balls to stand up and be counted.
                My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by jss View Post
                  Shodown it sounds like you've finally got someone to support what everyone knows is the truth. So where does it go from here?? Can Consumer Protection now force Toyota to fix their mistake?? Or is this where the battle now begins??
                  Unfortunately, Consumer Protection is purely a mediation service - no actual power. If they believe Toyota are in the wrong they will say as such and advise that I have a strong case for court etc. Hopefully that will make the Toyota dealership reconsider their position.

                  Else, it is off to small claims court.


                  Originally posted by mjrandom View Post
                  No denying that crank has been run without an oil supply. It stinks that they don't have the balls to stand up and be counted.
                  Yep, they are too busy trying to get out of it by saying the think the car has been submerged at some point and that its was pre-existing. That the oil change was the straw that broke the camels back. Think they are trying to say someone masked engine knock with a thick oil.

                  Consumer Protection guys has spoken to bearing and oil companies and both have said it is theoretically possible, but doubt I would have been able to do the 5000km I did without hearing anything.

                  A mate also said the lack of oil deposits or signs of oil burn tarnish on the crank or hot spots to show there was no oil present when it occurred, therefore that should save me from Toyota's masked noise theory.

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                  • #24
                    Whilst your story is disgusting and they are CLEARLY in the WRONG i wouldnt personally be playing all your cards open on the internet like this. They the dealership and Toyota know your every move and information from posts and have already concocted their next BS reply before you present them with it.

                    I have personally seen this happen with another car club and Subaru .. they even went to the extent of becoming a paid member to be able to read a thread to know what information was being posted. My 2cents

                    Cheers Nath

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by tsoobi View Post
                      Whilst your story is disgusting and they are CLEARLY in the WRONG i wouldnt personally be playing all your cards open on the internet like this. They the dealership and Toyota know your every move and information from posts and have already concocted their next BS reply before you present them with it.

                      I have personally seen this happen with another car club and Subaru .. they even went to the extent of becoming a paid member to be able to read a thread to know what information was being posted. My 2cents

                      Cheers Nath
                      Point taken, however nothing here is not already known by the Toyota Dealership. At the end of the day, when/if it goes to court it will be up to the magistrate to decide.

                      Feel free to point out any ways in which you think they might try to worm there way out though!

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                      • #26
                        Case closed - dealership covering repair costs at their expense.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by shodown View Post
                          Case closed - dealership covering repair costs at their expense.
                          Well done. Great outcome.

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                          • #28
                            Great result, congrats Shodown.

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                            • #29
                              Well done.
                              My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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                              • #30
                                Wow. Sounds like a dealership worth dealing with.

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