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  • #76
    Was looking on the map again, wanted some info on the Giles - Mulga Park road. It goes from the Giles weather station to Mulga Park which is in lower Central Northern territory. travels mostly in the top bit of SA.
    It takes in the Surveyor Generals Corner, Cnr of WA, SA & NT. which would be a good part of the map to tick off. I have done Cameron Corner (NSW,SA & QLD) and would like to tick off another one.
    By Reading a few sites on the subject there is a fee and the need for an aboriginal tracker to visit the corner. Interesting.
    But also I have read that the fees are $100Per car & $20 per person. Not very nice.
    But I have cut and pasted the following from the Explore oz site.



    Aboriginal Lands - Northern Areas


    For travel over aboriginal lands in the northern part of South Australia, which includes for example, the Giles-Mulga Park Road from Kulgera to Wingellina, contact the Anangu Pitjantjatjara/Yankunyjatjara Land Council.


    Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara Land Council
    PMB 227 Umuwa via Alice springs NT 0872
    Phone: (08) 8954 8111 or (08) 8954 8104
    Fax: (08) 8954 8110
    Website: http://www.waru.org/resources (Click the Permit link on the left hand side)

    Please bear in mind that currently the Land Council does not normally issue transit permits for that part of the Giles-Mulga Park Road, nor for any of the other tracks in the area. However, if you simply wish to visit any of the very worthwhile art galleries located on AP-Y lands at Indulkana, Fregon, Amata and Papulankutja, then it is strongly suggested that you simply contact the Manager of the particular art gallery concerned. If you do manage to gain a permit to visit any of those areas you will find that it is the most beautiful document you will ever have been issued. The permits are a work of aboriginal art in themselves.

    To visit Surveyor-General’s Corner, the normal access is from Warakurna on the Great Central Road down to Wingellina (where you pick up an escort/guide) and then out to the Corner. Applications for permits are made to the Ngaanyatjarra Land Council – see Permits for Western Australia.



    Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water.
    W. C. Fields (1880 - 1946)

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    • #77
      Still searching stuff.

      A handy link for WA is this..
      http://www.dia.wa.gov.au/Documents/Maps/PART3A4.pdf

      It shows all the areas that need permits, and also the reserve number.

      And for land adjoining WA, I found this.

      South Australia
      The approved route of travel is via Kulgera, Victory Downs, Mulga Park and Curtin Springs, where no permit is required. Access to the Giles Mulga Park Road is not permitted. Further information can be obtained from the Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankuytjatjara Land Council website.(www.waru.org/resources/permits.php)

      I think I have answered weather or not we could travel that route home from the GTG. Access to the Giles Mulga Park Road is not permitted
      via Kulgera, Victory Downs, Mulga Park and Curtin Springs, where no permit is required this route is the eastern end of that raod, Not a way home for us.
      Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water.
      W. C. Fields (1880 - 1946)

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      • #78
        Well just a up date.
        I have decided to hire a camper trailer for the journey next year and are looking at Crickey camper hire whom are offering a discount to Prado Point members or another one in Wangarra.
        If anyone else is interested in hiring let me know as they need booking soon.

        Russ
        2003 GXL Turbo Diesel,

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        • #79
          Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

          Hi I am confirming Glenys and I are travelling to Alice for the GTG in July. I will hopefully be towing a camper trailer (presently in Construction) We are definitely soft off roaders More interested in looking at places rather than going off road to test my or the Prado's ability. (keen not to scratch it ) I am probably happy to yoyo through the centre. I have never been past Kalgoorlie.

          Matt Ferguson
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          • #80
            Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

            Well done Matt.

            Be good to have another on the trip.


            Jeff.
            Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water.
            W. C. Fields (1880 - 1946)

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            • #81
              Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

              Top Stuff Matt.

              We got ourselves a CONVOY !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

              Cheers
              Chippy

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              • #82
                Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

                Originally posted by boreman
                Hi I am confirming Glenys and I are travelling to Alice for the GTG in July. I will hopefully be towing a camper trailer (presently in Construction) We are definitely soft off roaders More interested in looking at places rather than going off road to test my or the Prado's ability. (keen not to scratch it ) I am probably happy to yoyo through the centre. I have never been past Kalgoorlie.
                Matt Ferguson
                The great central road - the planned route for those of us from WA to go to/from the GTG, has a few corrugations (especially on the NT section of the road), but is very wide, so no issues with scratching. Assuming the camper trailer is of 'off-road' construction, rather than highway biased, you'll have no problems at all.

                Glad to have you along........

                John
                Ex 95 and 79 series owner, now FJ Cruiser owner.

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                • #83
                  Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

                  Originally posted by boreman
                  (keen not to scratch it )

                  Matt Ferguson
                  I know where your coming from there Matt, mine was only a few weeks old when we first went on a Pradopoint trip. Now a 'veteran' of half a dozen trips I dont even look anymore

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                  • #84
                    Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

                    I mentioned earlier in a previous post about going to Surveyor Generals Corner. (corner where the SA and NT border joins WA.)

                    There is a fee and an Aboriginal guide needed. from what I have read.

                    I was thinking that on the way back we could stay at Giles (permit req), then leave from there in the morning for a return trip to the corner.
                    Giles has a 9am weather baloon release etc. , and easily reached from Ularu in a day. so I feel it could all work rather nicely.
                    If anyone else is interested in going to the corner I will contact a few of the departments involved and get some official info and costs.

                    Eg. http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/sa/giles/ ... info.shtml
                    or http://www.outback-hwy.org.au/info_warakurna.html

                    Jeff.
                    Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water.
                    W. C. Fields (1880 - 1946)

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                    • #85
                      Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

                      Originally posted by jeff s
                      I mentioned earlier in a previous post about going to Surveyor Generals Corner. (corner where the SA and NT border joins WA.)

                      There is a fee and an Aboriginal guide needed. from what I have read.

                      I was thinking that on the way back we could stay at Giles (permit req), then leave from there in the morning for a return trip to the corner.
                      Giles has a 9am weather baloon release etc. , and easily reached from Ularu in a day. so I feel it could all work rather nicely.
                      If anyone else is interested in going to the corner I will contact a few of the departments involved and get some official info and costs.

                      Eg. http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/sa/giles/ ... info.shtml
                      or http://www.outback-hwy.org.au/info_warakurna.html

                      Jeff.
                      That is a great idea and we are interested to join you if you don't mind and I'm sure some others would also join in. I don't plan on going that way again so add it to the Itinerary.

                      Cheers
                      Russ
                      2003 GXL Turbo Diesel,

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                      • #86
                        Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

                        Originally posted by jeff s
                        I mentioned earlier in a previous post about going to Surveyor Generals Corner. (corner where the SA and NT border joins WA.)

                        There is a fee and an Aboriginal guide needed. from what I have read.

                        I was thinking that on the way back we could stay at Giles (permit req), then leave from there in the morning for a return trip to the corner.
                        Giles has a 9am weather baloon release etc. , and easily reached from Ularu in a day. so I feel it could all work rather nicely.
                        If anyone else is interested in going to the corner I will contact a few of the departments involved and get some official info and costs.

                        Eg. http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/sa/giles/ ... info.shtml
                        or http://www.outback-hwy.org.au/info_warakurna.html

                        Jeff.
                        We are happy to go with the flow as we haven't been anywhere outside WA so its all good.

                        pomp
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                        [b]GPS[/b] >< AVIC HD3>< Ncom G351 running ozi
                        [b]UHF[/b] >< GME3440
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                        • #87
                          Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

                          Hang on a minute I just noticed the title of this thread and realised the date is wrong for the GTG. Folks the GTG starts on the 4th of July 09 not in April.
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                          • #88
                            Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

                            Originally posted by mav
                            Hang on a minute I just noticed the title of this thread and realised the date is wrong for the GTG. Folks the GTG starts on the 4th of July 09 not in April.
                            Oh... I just thought it was a time difference thing. You know... WA always being behind the rest of Australia... :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
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                            • #89
                              Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

                              Originally posted by jeff s
                              I mentioned earlier in a previous post about going to Surveyor Generals Corner. (corner where the SA and NT border joins WA.)

                              There is a fee and an Aboriginal guide needed. from what I have read.

                              I was thinking that on the way back we could stay at Giles (permit req), then leave from there in the morning for a return trip to the corner.
                              Giles has a 9am weather baloon release etc. , and easily reached from Ularu in a day. so I feel it could all work rather nicely.
                              If anyone else is interested in going to the corner I will contact a few of the departments involved and get some official info and costs.

                              Eg. http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/sa/giles/ ... info.shtml
                              or http://www.outback-hwy.org.au/info_warakurna.html

                              Jeff.
                              Sounds Good What distance is it from Giles to Surveyor General Corner ?

                              Has anyone made a list of all the permits needed ?

                              Gary

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                              • #90
                                Re: WA. trip to GTG april 09

                                Sounds like a good idea.

                                .... and I've got the same question as Gary ..... how many of these gosh-darned permits do we need to travel in our own taxpayer funded country ???

                                Cheers
                                Chippy

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