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    Hi Folks,

    I have a Pajero myself, but a family member had a 2007 Prado Grande Petrol with factory alloy bar which was unfortunately recently written off by another family member, an 18 year old. She fell asleep in a 100kph zone and luckily sustained no injuries and the car saved her life. She didn't hit any other motorists. So no one was hurt, which is great. She lives with her grand parents and the grand father had heart surgery that same day and she'd only had three hours sleep and had been taking people to the hospital. She obviously shouldn't have been driving.

    The Prado saved her life, she normally drives a 1995 Hyundai Excel. The car went off the left side of the freeway and took out one of those giant light poles, the bullbar snapped in half and the car hit the wall and ground itself along it.

    Anyway, my question.

    On the phone the insurance company said it has high K's, 315,000, and verbally said to the owner that because of that it would probably be a payout in the $20-$22k range.

    However they've now valued the car at $16k, less excess and various fees and things, more like $14k.

    If I were buying on the used market I probably wouldn't want to buy a 315,000 k car unless the price was very keen, I'd look for a lower mileage example, even though this drove perfectly and felt like it had plenty of life left in it. One owner, Toyota dealership servicing since new, no off road, country k's, etc. Just a 120km daily commute.

    Sorry, my question:

    Do you think $16k is reasonable market value? I was thinking it's low, and the owner does, but now I'm not so sure.

    Certainly redbook says much higher, but that's based on a max of 230,000 k.

    Only non-accident damage was in the third row, an english mastiff chewed some seat leather.

  • #2
    i dunno there are so many variations. If I were wanting to buy that Prado, I probably wouldn't want to pay more than $16k.

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    • #3
      I just bought my 2005 grand with 150K's at $17000. I think it's a reasonable price for a vehicle with such high K's.

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      • #4
        I think try and get a little more out of them. sometimes if you show insurance companies sales of similar vehicles with similar kms for a higher price they will increase the payout pretty easy, its worth a shot. find one on carsales that someone is asking too much for and send it to them.
        2012 4dr JK wrangler, 3.5" AEV lift, AEV mags, 35" muddies, front/rear arb bars, tjm sliders, pioneer platform and some other goodies

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        • #5
          Hey,

          Here is an unbiased linear regression of ten 2007 Grande Petrols for sale right now in carsales;



          Extrapolation of the fit suggests at 315,000km, the average market price is $25916.

          Here is the raw data if you want it;

          cost km
          28171.0000 199887.0000
          29990.0000 218204.0000
          26000.0000 205000.0000
          29900.0000 219000.0000
          29990.0000 122660.0000
          26000.0000 177000.0000
          26000.0000 142334.0000
          33000.0000 132000.0000
          28990.0000 166000.0000
          25500.0000 190300.0000

          The final equation you can show your insurer is;

          Cost = -0.0177(kilometres) + 31491.49

          I would be chasing a lot more money.

          Best

          Mark
          2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Whitey View Post
            Hey,

            Here is an unbiased linear regression of ten 2007 Grande Petrols for sale right now in carsales;

            Extrapolation of the fit suggests at 315,000km, the average market price is $25916.

            The final equation you can show your insurer is;

            Cost = -0.0177(kilometres) + 31491.49

            I would be chasing a lot more money.

            Best

            Mark
            Would that not be better called the "asking price" rather than "cost"?

            I did a quick search on Red Book and came up with much higher numbers.

            http://tinyurl.com/z94kxhh

            I must have asked the wrong question.

            S.
            155 SX with dual battery and Polyairs in the rear springs..

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sweetpea View Post
              Would that not be better called the "asking price" rather than "cost"?

              I did a quick search on Red Book and came up with much higher numbers.

              http://tinyurl.com/z94kxhh

              I must have asked the wrong question.

              S.
              Hey,

              Sure, call it asking price.

              If you click on the "more detail" tab for the petrol auto in redbook, you'll see private price guide is $28700-32700, which would be a Prado with less than 200,000km on carsales.

              The trade in price on redbook is $23700-27700 for vehicles with 140,000-230,000km.

              Using the private price guide on redbook gives;

              Cost = -0.0444(kilometres) + 38922.2222

              For 315,000km, this would be $24936, or around $1000 less than the average from 10 vehicles on carsales.

              Carsales: $25916
              Redbook: $24936

              Either way you look at it, a 2007 Grande with 315,000km on it is worth around $25,000 according to the market.

              Best

              Mark
              2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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              • #8
                Thanks for the input guys. Fantastically helpful. They've already boosted the price by $1k from a simple phone call but have asked for evidence of other sales if we want to dispute it further. I'll let you know how we go.

                Very helpful community you have here.

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                • #9
                  That's the trouble with having market value policies, it's up to you to prove it's worth more than the insurer would like to pay out. I'm really glad your family member is OK, a relative of mine ended up in a coma for 3 months and now has brain damage after a similar accident but he managed to wrap his car (a Torana) around a tree in the process.

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