Please lend me your knowledge to help my Prado war!

[Sambo Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close Sambo]

Hi Prado lovers,

I would dearly love a Prado which would be my everyday company car, and in my spare time, a great off-roader and boat-tower.

Now, my company has allowed us to take a car allowance instead of our standard Commodore/Aurion, but has put a few stipulations on it.

No SUV is allowed to be over 2050kg (!!). Ok, so I have checked this thoroughly, from the specs sheet:

Kerb Weight - Manual trans (Kg) - 1970-2170 (Standard, GX, GXL T/D);
1900-2100 (GX, GXL P)

Kerb Weight - Auto trans (Kg) - 1980-2180 (T/D Standard, GX,
GXL);2010-2190 (VX, Grande T/D) 1910-2110 (GX, GXL P); 1940-2120 (VX, Grande P)

So the way I see it is, if I went the GX or GXL model, it would be under the limit. I put this forward to the company, and they have replied with "we used the Kluger (blah) as a guide, and are using the max weight as the limit, the Prado being 2180+)".

Apparently fuel could be one of the issues (they give us a fuel card), but if I went the TD model, surely that would reasonably fuel efficient, not much more than my car now!

So now I am here, to ask you all to give me any info you know, or where I can get it, on the weight of your lower model Prados, and if anyone knows what sort of fuel consumption it has vs the Commodore or Aurion type of vehicle.

Basically, anything you got to help me get my dream 4WD! (The only real 4WD I have found that would definitely fit is the Jeep Cherokee, and it is too small and doesn't even compare to the Prado).

Thanks sooo sooo much!

Cheers

[samo Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close samo]

have you considered a dual cab ute, like a hilux or something, you still get the d4d motor, and if the company is buying get the sr5, you still get diesel economy and petrol performance, the hilux is good for about 2500kg towing and if you like the wagon appeal put a canopy on it, just a thought.

[Sambo Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close Sambo]

have you considered a dual cab ute, like a hilux or something, you still get the d4d motor, and if the company is buying get the sr5, you still get diesel economy and petrol performance, the hilux is good for about 2500kg towing and if you like the wagon appeal put a canopy on it, just a thought.

Thanks for the thought, unfortunately the weight restriction isn't the only one:

No dual cabs or utes
No convertabiles
No SUVs over 2050kg
No motorcycles
NO FUN!!!

[Chippy Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chippy]

According to Red Book the specifications for the new TD Standard wagon show a Kerb weight = 1980 Kg for the manual. Note: the petrol motor isn't an option on the Standard model but you do get a choice of auto or manual. ... and it looks like you miss out on the third row of seats.

The auto is 10 Kg lighter at 1970 Kg.


KDJ120R Standard Wagon 4dr Man 6sp 4x4 3.0DT

Release Date February 2003
Body Style Wagon
Badge Standard
No. Doors 4
Seat Capacity 5
Series KDJ120R
ModelCode KDJ120R-GKFEYQ
VIN Number JTEBZ29J3########
Drive 4X4 Constant
Transmission 6sp Manual
Gear Location Floor
Steering Rack and Pinion
Engine Size 2982cc (3.0)
No. Cylinders 4
Engine Configuration In-line
Cam Overhead Cam
Valves/Cylinder 2
Compression Ratio 17.9:1
Engine Cycle 4 Stroke
Engine Type Piston
Engine Location Front
Engine Number 1KD-#######
Engine Code 1KD-TE
Fuel Type Diesel
Fuel Capacity 180L
Fuel Consumption Combined (ADR 81/01) 9.2L/100km
CO2 244g/km
Fuel Delivery Multi-Point Injection
Method of Delivery Mechanical
Induction Turbo intercooled
Power 127kW @ 3400rpm
Torque 410Nm @ 1600rpm-2800rpm
Acceleration 0-100Km/h 12.2 secs
Gross Combination Mass 5400kg
Kerb Weight 1980kg
Gross Vehicle Mass 2900kg
Towing Braked 2500kg
Towing Not Braked 750kg
Wheel Base 2790mm
Length 4850mm
Width 1875mm
Height 1865mm
Track Front 1575mm
Track Rear 1575mm
Country of origin JAPAN

Yes ... the GX and the GXL are heavier .... but the Standard comes in under your wieght limit (before you load it up with accessories :lol: :lol: :lol: )

The GX, in the diesel auto, comes in at 2180 Kg ... add 200 Kg worth of plastic flares and extra seats

Cheers and good luck
Chippy

[samo Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close samo]

what about a (god help me its a toyota forum) a mitsubishi challenger, you still get dual range transfer, 1850kg will tow 2.27 tonne, has v6 and gets ok reviews

[hoppy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hoppy]

First, forget the challenger!!

Second, I dont see the problem the MANUAL GX and GXL. They both come in under the required kerb weight. So why dont you get the quote from Toyota and get them to stipulate the weight and just push it though the system. You will have fulfilled all their requirements !!!

[Sambo Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close Sambo]

Thanks to all for your opinions and advice. I realised I left some of the weights out, more so for the VX and Grande models.

Chippy thanks for posting that, I will have a look at redbook.

And hoppy50, my point exactly, I think I will take your advice and get a quote on those models and try it that way, I shouldn't have sent them the ranges, bugger.

Thanks again, I appreciate it.