How things can quickly go wrong............

[pete8205 Member Find all posts View Profile Close pete8205]

WOW, what a read, great add for the kids seat.

Lets simplify this a bit for those without experience on dirt roads. we don't all race cars!

What I have found through many a ####up!

-Is be smooth in what you do be gentle with the throttle weather applying more or less
-Be gentle on the steering wheel, no sudden movements
-If you apply the brake be gentle again don't just jam it on unless your in a straight line

-If you watch this and think ohh crap what would I do, enrol in an advanced drivers course

feel free to disagree just what I found from my experience and works for me.

pete

[bundyk Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bundyk]

Wow, not everyone can be Sébastien Loeb , but you seem to think your superior advanced driving skills put you in the same league.

My hat is off to you, and one day i hope i can be as modest as you, until that day i shall just be humble and say that i drive to the best of my ability.

Or maybe AJ was, in his words, taking the piss. In other words, making a joke, as he had already stated in post #72.

Good first post, taking a crack at a senior member.

[ntp Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close ntp]

As I said before...

Funny how threads can turn.

I think this threat has run its course. Everyone will have an opinion... just as everyone has an a$$ho!e.

From my perspective, the lessons in this video are pretty simple and should be a timely reminder for all at this time of year:

* drive to road conditions - especially on unsealed/unfamiliar roads
* always wear a seatbelt
* make sure items in a cabin are restrained (cargo barrier, tie downs)
* always be alert when driving - you never know what might happen next
* kiss your loved ones every day - it could be your last!

This could have been a much worse outcome. I'm thankful no-one was seriously hurt. It would have been a hell of a thing to have had the death of a child on the driver's conscious for the rest of his life.

[Beach Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close Beach]

.... a senior member.

Free public transport and discount schooners?

[AJ120 Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close AJ120]

Wow, not everyone can be Sébastien Loeb , but you seem to think your superior advanced driving skills put you in the same league.
My hat is off to you, and one day i hope i can be as modest as you, until that day i shall just be humble and say that i drive to the best of my ability.

No not at all, have you read the thread? A number of guys here are suggesting they could just manipulate the throttle with a bit of extra power and give a little more opposite lock and power around the corner, assuming this was the way to go (I don't believe it is) it would take a reasonable amount of skill.

One of the great things about the theory I was taught and think would be the way to handle this is that it requires a very low skill level to achieve, that is lift your foot which should help to straighten up the vehicle, if you get it straight then apply the brakes and wash off speed which was obviously a major factor in the incident in the video.

Of course the greatest skill is to not get yourself in a situation where you are going too fast in the first place.

Caution is the real key to driving on dirt roads, as I previously mentioned, after a youth involving driving and riding at insane speeds and making plenty of mistakes (fortunately I survived) I realised that driving faster than the conditions dictate isn't really so much a skill as dumb luck if you survive.

Cheers Andrew

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I mastered a great skill in my youth - crash technique. I often out-drove my abilities but am lucky to have walked away from many single car crashes leaving a trail of wrecked machines in my wake. One important skill, that I think is a lesson for all, is to take it easy on unfamiliar roads. Most of us could admit to pushing it a little too hard on some occasions on roads that we thought we knew so well. That's also a danger. But, with our precious cargo of wee little ones on-board, slow down and survive the journey.

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I mastered a great skill in my youth - crash technique. I often out-drove my abilities but am lucky to have walked away from many single car crashes leaving a trail of wrecked machines in my wake. One important skill, that I think is a lesson for all, is to take it easy on unfamiliar roads. Most of us could admit to pushing it a little too hard on some occasions on roads that we thought we knew so well. That's also a danger. But, with our precious cargo of wee little ones on-board, slow down and survive the journey.

Funny how it seems we all did very silly things when younger, but you nailed it once you have kids it all changes.
Now I never broke any road rules, but somehow got in all the practise I needed in dozens of different fast cars & bikes.
Have kids now, & a 1kz Prado is what I needed & love it.

Did you notice the emoticon at the end? I thought it was pretty obvious that I was taking the piss, particularly out of #### who said he is happy to demonstrate. I've met ####, spoken to him on the phone and despite us often disagreeing I am sure he wouldn't take the slightest offence to my comments.

Cheers Andrew

No offence at all. All good fun, how boring if we all agreed. I'm happy to demonstrate or explain why I'm right, failing that, I'm also happy to agree we can disagree.

[ntp Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close ntp]

An excellent demonstration of why you should always pay attention to your speed and slow down near intersections or unfamiliar pieces of road:

Doesn't matter if you make a mistake, or the other person did. Too late once you're dead. Or worse, you kill someone you love.

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And another great ad demonstrating why you should not only wear a seatbelt, but also have a cargo barrier in place when your Prado is loaded-up with gear: