***SOLD*** King Springs - suit 120 Prado - STD Height

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ITEM: King Springs Standard Height - suit 120 series - KTFS-101 and KTRS-102
CONDITION: Great! Done less than 1000kms
REASON FOR SELLING: Swapped out for raised King Springs
PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS: $200 o.n.o
EXTRA INFO: PICK UP ONLY. When upgrading my suspension I had these matched with Bilstein shocks cos I thought I wouldn't be able to fit in Prado in the garage with raised springs. I later made some 'adjustments' to my garage and was able to swap these springs out for the raised versions after they had only done less than 1000kms. When I had these fitted, I managed to get about a 20-30mm lift compared to the stock springs.
LOCATION: Perth, WA
PICTURES:
Front springs - full shot


Front springs - close up


Rear Springs - full shot


Rear Springs - close up

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Is it permissible to 'bump' our own For Sale thread?

[pjorek Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close pjorek]

just out of interest, if i was to purchase these (as I'm after 20mm or 30mm lift only) can i fit these onto standard shocks (mine have only done 50k kms). If not what sort of $ am i looking at to purchase new set of blisten's (+ $ to fit them and wheel align the lot)?

Also who fit it for you as I'm in WA so would probably go to the same place

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Should be fine putting them onto OEM shocks. There is another PP member selling OME shocks (Prado 120 Series Oldman Emu Nitro chargers ). You could match it up with that. However, it was interesting to note that there is really not much difference to the extended travel length of the OME shocks compared to the 120 shocks. See Suspension Database

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thanks Amts,

will it shorten the life of the factory shocks if i put longer springs on it? What about the ride comfort around the city? Harsher? Softer?

I'm guessing after 50k kms my current factory springs would start to sag a little already

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No it shouldn't shorten the life as it isn't raised that much. The ride will be slightly firmer and you will sit a bit more flatter when cornering.
My factory springs had done 110,000km and it didn't look like sagging before I put OME883 in the front for a 40mm lift. But the Prado had been stock standard and I don't believe the previous owner gave it a hard time.

What have you got planned in terms of accessories that will add weight to the car?

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I only have the alloy bar and 2nd batt and that's about it. Not planning on adding more.

The car travels light around town but we do pack it up when going further. Little firmer would be good but too firm would be a concern as my wife wouldn't like the harsh ride (something about babies not sleeping when too bumpy)

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I have seen an incident where a longer spring tore a front stut apart in an unfortunate location (middle of the Simpson). This was was with a EFS strut and an TJM XGS spring. The sping only had an operating height of about 5mm more than the strut and tore one apart. There was great concern about the other but fortunatley the other survived all the way back to Adelaide. I believe the stut had only done about 8000ks and about 5000k was part of the trip that destoyed it.

Dosn't mean it will happen again. Could have been a weak weld on the strut or an issue caused by the driving style or the conditions that the strut was under.

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thanks schaffer, however in this case since the spring is technically the same lenght as the factory spring and it's simply the spring rate (stiffness ) that pushes the car up by 20mm shouldn't be a problem...i think???

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Didn't look at the heights but if they are the same then shouldn't be an issue. The real issue they way I see it is if the ride height of the spring is taller than the stut then you have an issue but if it is the other way around then you wouldn't. The reason it would be an issue is as the spring streches out when you get droop then then if the spring streches out more than what the stut allows for then the stut is supporting the weight of the tyre and hence pulling it apart slowly.

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G'day pjorek, just replied to your pm however didn't notice your question about who fitted them until now. I just had my usual mechanic fit them, however I imagine any suspension would do it. I am happy to recommend and provide the details of my mechanic if you wish. Let me know if you have any other concerns.

Cheers

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Didn't look at the heights but if they are the same then shouldn't be an issue. The real issue they way I see it is if the ride height of the spring is taller than the stut then you have an issue but if it is the other way around then you wouldn't. The reason it would be an issue is as the spring streches out when you get droop then then if the spring streches out more than what the stut allows for then the stut is supporting the weight of the tyre and hence pulling it apart slowly.

thanks again schaffer, according to the suspension database these are 5mm longer than stocks, shouldn't be an issue I wouldn't think?

Madkore,

No worries mate I've rang my usual tyre place and will probably get it done whilst getting new rubber (and fresh wheel alignment)

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SOLD!

Cheers pjorek! Don't forget to let me know how they work out for you.

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thanks buddy, no doubt i will (won't be till my new tyres come on). Thanks again!

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I have seen an incident where a longer spring tore a front stut apart in an unfortunate location (middle of the Simpson). This was was with a EFS strut and an TJM XGS spring. The sping only had an operating height of about 5mm more than the strut and tore one apart. There was great concern about the other but fortunatley the other survived all the way back to Adelaide. I believe the stut had only done about 8000ks and about 5000k was part of the trip that destoyed it.

Dosn't mean it will happen again. Could have been a weak weld on the strut or an issue caused by the driving style or the conditions that the strut was under.

Probably a lower strut bush failure or perhaps a weak weld rather than a spring that was too long that caused that strut to break where it did: http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post293545

In fact the EFS strut is one of the longer struts available, 8mm longer than Bilsteins, and would alow more than adequate droop with springs long enough to create lifts up about 60mm over standard: http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post288534